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Real Earth vs Dragon ball earth
Topic Started: Oct 28 2015, 06:54 PM (2,081 Views)
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The armies of all the countries of our world vs dragon ball army + red ribbon army. People such as Z-warriors etc don't fight with the army,only standard soldiers. I know you might think dragon world would stomp our armies since they are more technologically advanced,but keep in mind the ribbon army and the king fury's army didn't show weapons much more powerful the ours. So who wins?
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Oct 29 2015, 01:22 AM
I'm assuming this is a total war scenario where rules of conduct like the Geneva Conventions and other humanitarian executions of war have been discarded. In which case, all of the aforementioned armaments such as indiscriminate attacks, the usage of high calibre weaponry/ammunition against personnel, chemical warfare, incendiary rounds, and obviously nukes are available.

Well your normal RRA soldier from DB looks to be wearing far less in terms of equipment or protective garments like Kevlar than the standard soldier from any competent military in the real world. Toriyama probably doesn't have a very good understanding of the exact tools and resources available to real life militaries. If he did, then he should know that many of your standard issue small arms come with electronic scopes, night vision, thermal imaging, various calibres of ammunition that would be considered too dangerous for widescale usage under different conditions. Or how about the various tanks and aircraft available that make the RRA's look like toys by comparison? What Toriyama designs as firearms in his manga amounts to nondescript popularised weapons that can probably be described as "pistol, sniper rifle, assault rifle, machine gun" with no regards to the exact calibre, quality of the weapon, and ammunition involved.

Seriously, look up the firing capacity and damage output of a Barrett M82 rifle with high explosive .50 calibre ammunition. There's a reason why it's classified as an anti-material rifle. It's capable of piercing lightly armoured tanks and helicopters. I can almost assure you that if Goku had taken such a round head on while assaulting the RRA base, it would have been a very gruesome end for him. Roshi would have probably had his hand and arm taken off too if he tried snatching a round like that while his island was being attacked.

Then you've got the various other tools at the real world's disposal like ICBMs, predator drones, heat seeking missiles, chemical weaponry, ect. There's certain kinds of hallucinogenic agents that would induce disorientation of the senses, slurred speech, secretional drying, and of course hallucinations like 3-Quinuclidinyl benzilate. If you want to push it even further, there's also white phosphorus that can cause serious burns and damage to internal organs. Can Namekians even regenerate from failure or deterioration of the internal organs? I'd like to see what King Piccolo's reaction would be after being completely coated in it.

I won't deny that the RRA does have a few advantages of its own though like the metal suit used by Staff Officer Black which contained a missile with enough energy output to devastate the top of a mountain. Granted, I'm not familiar with all the different kinds of nuclear devices that the real world has. There might be some that are powerful enough to have a similar effect.
That pretty much sums it up, the Red Ribbon Army despite it's "superior technology" frankly gets stomped by any of the respectable armies of today. They got no tactics, they got no loyalty (bribary ho!), they got no quality weapons, they got nothing.

The fact that the thread has turned into KP vs Earth (who isn't even affiliated with the Red Ribbon Army) shows how lopsided this is.
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The Red Ribbon army is awful compared to the real world army...

They have some advanced technologies but we have way better ones by far. They were using crappy WW2 guns most of the time the only advanced things they had were cyborgs and the mech suit...that's it.

And those are worthless against cluster bombs, drone strikes, railguns, artillery in general and most high power weaponry we have.

Seriously the Red Ribbon army sucked they're nothing like the real world army :rofl: their equipment was balls and they lacked firepower like battleships which are major advantages.

Nobody in Dragon Ball is gonna be able to sense a high speed projectile coming at them, they can't sense metal and chemicals and they wouldn't hear it 'cause obviously it'd be going faster than sound.
We can watch these people from space and co-ordinate such an attack without ever going near them.

And it's not like many of them would sense is since barely anyone could in Dragon Ball, plus every soldier would be exceedingly average, why would they even bother investigating weaklings?

The RRA were incompetent as f*** and there didn't even seem to be that many of them, couple of SEAL and SAS teams would take fortresses out easily.


Also yeah we would OWN them with biological warfare. Piccolo might be resistant to some things since he's a Namekian but nobody else would be.
Not like they could tank a cloud of anthrax.
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Oct 29 2015, 01:39 AM
they have made the Z warriors weaker then. i don't believe any man made weapon is going to hurt a warrior with a PL around 100, that is on guard. yeah Tenshinhan dodged the acid, why take a attack just to waste ki?
Meaning that without ki, it would've done damage. Keeping your ki up constantly is going to exhaust you, especially when it comes to being a fighter early on in the series.

King Kakarot, what do you take Earths' army for? Infantry is going to come much later on, and it probably wouldn't even get to that point, with Tao and King Piccolo being taken out by chemicals or radiation.
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Okay yeah, correction, if we fight like we would under the Duke of Wellington yeah, we'll probably lose to KP :rofl:
KK you're telling us that the z-fighters used up resources for no reason. That's called being stupid. People don't literally throw away medical supplies for no reason unless they're stupid.

@Gearfiend
that is the general consensus with FnF, yes. But it's definitely gonna apply to a squishy like Tao. The man gets killed the minute he lets down his guard, and he probably won't be able to keep it up through out the day much less the war.
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I think the governments of the world would sooner blanket their atmospheres with lethal chemical agents and begin using scorched earth tactics while living underground than allow King Piccolo to run around unabated. Hell! Namekians depend on water to survive. Sarin gas in small quantities would generate uncontrollable perspiration. With enough of it someone can even be put into a coma and lose their bodily functions while killing them if ingested. What's to stop these weapons from having a similar effect on KP?
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But what's stopping KP from just destroyin anything he sees in the sky
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He could do that, but then I doubt he has the ability to completely wipe out to what amounts as the entire missile stockpiles of the world that numbers well into the tens of thousands. He doesn't know where precisely these missiles may be coming from in the first place since real world geography is unknown to him. There's silo bases all across the world ranging from the remote tundra regions of Siberia to the jungles of South America. This isn't including the missile loaded stealth submarines that many countries have that could easily launch one at KP while he's traveling over the Atlantic.
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Oct 29 2015, 01:55 AM
But what's stopping KP from just destroyin anything he sees in the sky
There would be so many things in the sky. Eventually he'd get worn down. Like it or not, his ki reserves and his stamina are finite.
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Even if he destroyed everything in the sky it would be at limited range, he'd only be able to destroy what he sees which means he'd definitely be in range of enough radiation to kill him.

Plus while he's doing that he could be shot in the back by railguns.

No way is he so amazing a fighter he could keep track of thousands upon thousands of moving objects, just no way. He wasn't even smart enough to move out of the way of Goku traveling in a straight line to kill him.
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King Piccolo's immediate strategy to Goku charging him is to try to block it. Yeah, he's not dodging any big hail mary attack

Also, the government gave up after tossing a few dozen tanks and infantry with bazookas at Cell
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Oct 29 2015, 02:27 AM
King Piccolo's immediate strategy to Goku charging him is to try to block it. Yeah, he's not dodging any big hail mary attack

Also, the government gave up after tossing a few dozen tanks and infantry with bazookas at Cell
They knew it would be futile.
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In our case, it is very useful considering the weapons we have available to us.

KP has no chance in the long run.

Honestly only chance is to move to Z and have Raditz blow up the planet, without that it's a stomp in our favour.
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